The Sabbath was not for the Jews. It was given at Creation before Israel was born or mentioned. The Sabbath is for everyone who believes in God the Creator. You are actually meaning Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism was a Mason and the symbology you mentioning in the Mormon Church. I am a non-denomination Christian, and after doing some research on the SDA sect.
I am highly disappointed on other Christian groups for distancing themselves from them. I am my family have decided to always keep the Sabbath Saturday holy rather than Sunday. I pray the rest of the Christian family will do the same. This way we divorce ourselves from roman Catholicism. I am a believer in the 10 commanments. All of them. Specially the Sabath. It was meant for everyone as were the other 9.
No mention of Michael during the service. But at the end I asked someone if there was any truth to this and she said yes. I and my family have decided to always keep the Sabbath Saturday holy rather than Sunday.
Genesis … remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy… six days shall though work, but the seventh day is the day of the Lord. The Sabbath was designed by God for all not just Jewish people. I have a question. I understand the SDA teaches there is no hell, even though Jesus spoke more about hell than heaven as He wants NONE to go there, but wants all to repent and accept His free gift of salvation.
It is eternity in hell. He wants none to perish, but all to come. I have seen this myself as I work with Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses that teach there is no hell. That is a lie from Satan himself. As Jesus was so clear about the reality of a very real hell, Sheol, Gehenna, where there will be weeping, eternal fire, gnashing of teeth. Just trying to understand so I can discuss with my friend. Thank you and may God Bless you. And to be a Christian you absolutely must never use another book as a form of teaching along with the Bible unless it is a Bible study.
It cannot be used to preach out of. Never, never, never! All christians profess to follow Jesus Christ and His teachings and to walk according to the Bible. But I wonder why do Christians worship on Sundays when Jesus Christ himself has never kept sunday as the sabbath day.
He always kept the sabbath on the 7th day which is saturday according to the 10 commandments. If we have to go to heaven and live there for eternity , I wonder what laws they obey or keep in Heaven, because most Christians claim all laws are fulfilled and nailed to the cross and done away with.
So christians must think and study the Bible carefully. Sin definitely exists and so does the 10 moral laws. I need Jesus Christ to save me from my sins, cause only His blood cleanses me from sin and by Grace only I receive eternal life or salvation. God accept who worship at Sunday not only Sabbath.. Jesus was turned in by his own kind Jewish who did not accept him. However, not all Jewish hated and or hate Jesus.
Otherwise, we will all be doomed. Thank God that he sent His onlt begotten son, Jesus, to die for us and give us salvation. I am a Lutheran Christian and I go to church on Sunday. My first born was baptised in the Luthern church. He is now 18yrs and now an SDA christian. Life at home has changed because of his new beliefs which are contrary to what I believe. I love my son dearly but becase of his beliefs there is always tension at home.
What must I do? Please find out if it has changed for the better or for the worse.? Has this new belief brought your son closer to God or away from Him? Because you love your son, you will be able to see the Joy and Growth he experiences in this true faith. Go to church with your son to experience it. And just keep walking your walk. Try to keep the tension to a minimum because walking your Christian walk and keeping in prayer is what is going to make that change and he will finally come back to your bible-based Christianity and be with you in heaven inevitably for eternity.
This is a life-and-death situation, so please be patient. We are in such a turmoil in the world right now so I certainly feel for you. My children have pulled away from the Lord as well, so I know your feelings. We must all be as careful about not giving false witness as we would be for any of the other commandments! As a Seventh Day Adventist I hold no opinion of scriptures that differ with main-line protestant denominations concerning salvation. You re free to live.
If he does its a shame. But if he is grateful and truly loves his saviour then he will never repeat xyz. So its with us. Jesus stepped in. He died in our stead. To reciprocate this great love and sacrifice we ought to obey him keep ALL the commandments which includes the Sabbath observance. Keeping the law will not save me. But tells my Saviour How much I love Him. Bible is my rule of faith. We cant serve both God and man. I love others as god does me ,love love love is all you need not arguing about scripture amen amen amen.
Truly …the greatest commandment is Love , love your neighbor as God loves you. God is Love, God made the sabbath for man not man for the sabbath. God knew if it was up to us, we would work everyday and forsake him, he made us for him ,not he for us, he wants us to have a relationship with him and to do his will. Jesus loves you and so do I. Love in the house. Most people that states scripture are themselves Christians. I know I am. Proud to say I am a born again Christian. I spend my time in retirement leading missions Within the US and across the country as well as volunteering from my church and a few churches in my area.
Jesus Christ is my life! It is called the propitiation. Jesus was our propitiation. HE took our place. While we were yet sinners, Jesus took the horrific punishment that was due us and took it and our sins upon himself. It all comes back to the cross and the cross and the cross and Him he died upon it. Also, Jesus teaches about a man named Lazarus. This does not appear to be a parable. The scriptures you are giving to back the belief that man remains dead until the reserection are making different points—not explaining what happens when we die.
Your ideas on death conflict with scripture which is intended to teach us about what happens when we die. I could be wrong, sure, I only say these things in love. Also, the foods forbid are no worse for the body than many foods not forbidden. The point was for the Hebrews to be set apart from others. I consider you my brother in Christ. Would you deny this because I worship on Sunday? Keeping the Sabbath Holy is more than getting the day right.
Saturday may be the proper day. I admit that, but division between Christians violates the Greatest two commandments. Love God, Love your neighbor. His Holy Spirit dwells in me the same as you. You say the Catholics pick and choose what scriptures to believe. We are human, subject to error. This person definitely did not know what they were talking about. Adventists have no dress code, they just encourage more formal wear.
Long dresses for woman is SO not true…. Teens especially wear what ever they want now to Church including short dresses. Amen brother! I grew up catholic but now am born again. Let us pray 4 eachother that one day we will all rejoice in truth. So this makes them Christians. However, this is not a test of fellowship, and eating meat is certainly permitted. Adventist women try to be modest in their dress, but their garb conforms to what is worn in contemporary society.
There are Seventh Day Baptists and a few other Christian sabbatarian groups. Unlike the Bible, she did not claim infallibility for her writings. Adventists believe that Satan will ultimately bear the punishment for sin, not Jesus.
Nothing fogs understanding of the truth like a well-intentioned Adventist, sadly. Here is a very positive piece on Ellen G. White, trying to prove she was an evangelical. The quotations are highly selective. But it has value in balancing the other stuff which is mostly negative.
More balance is offered in this article by Roger Olson, an Arminian theologian who I often disagree with, but who is an evangelical. In spending a lot of time with Adventists, he is convinced many of them are evangelicals also.
If you want more there is this article. Martin included SDAs in his classic Kingdom of the Cults , but met with many SDA leaders and saw them correcting many of the more cultic aspects of the church. It does, however, say in their doctrine that many events that precede the Second Coming have fulfilled prophecy , meaning the return of Jesus is soon.
For that reason, they believe in being constantly ready. Many Adventists ascribe to a vegetarian or plant-based diet. They take this direction from scripture, which says God gave nuts, grains, and herbs as nourishment.
Because of this diet, many experts have said Seventh Day Adventists can live an average of 10 years longer than most Americans. In a study from Loma Linda University, scientists found that Adventists can die of cancer, stroke or heart disease, but the age at which those diseases and illnesses are diagnosed is much later because of their healthy lifestyle and resting on the Sabbath. In addition to a plant-based diet, many churches also forbid alcohol and tobacco.
Adventists believe that hell is not an eternity of suffering and torture. Instead, sinners and unbelievers will ultimately die for eternity. Most Adventists believe some variant of annihilationism, which says that after final judgment, all unbelievers will be destroyed rather than suffering in hell.
In this belief, the Old Testament and New Testament say that the final end for nonbelievers is total extinction. For example, in Romans, Paul describes hell as a final punishment, where the wicked die, perish or are destroyed. With some 19 million members and 82, churches, Seventh Day Adventists follow a hierarchal network. The General Conference oversees the global ministry of the church.
The General Conference is also responsible for the spiritual development of the church. Yeshua did all the work on the Cross for us. Then Sent the Holy Spirit into us.. But It Honors God. Gods Feasts—Not Jewish Feasts. If Jesus did all the work for us, then everyone would be saved, whether you believe in him or not. You must believe we are sinners and that we need a savior, believe Jesus is God, repent, and take the gift of grace and salvation that Jesus provided for us.
They are Christians for they do believe in Jesus Christ. They really study the Bible and try to understand what is needed to be saved.
One of the 10 is to keep holy the Sabbath day. Exactly, and the teachings of White as their absolute authority, therefore they are following a false profit. Why do SDAs continue to teach about worldwide Sunday laws with eventual death penalties since when nothing has happened? Do SDAs know that the last three popes oppose the death penalty? Does anyone see a problem here? Is this addressed to… the Pharisees? That would involve a judgement, no?
But what about the rest of the verse? You are on this page, therefore, I would think you are a Christian and as such I am amazed you would make such remark. However, Satan works his will in mysterious ways. God please forgive this person. I would like to know the belief of the SDA about clean and unclean food that the bible talks about? Is there a difference between Christians and the SDA?
SDA usually try and follow a vegan diet. We believe that it is based upon the original diet of man which was all plant based in the Garden of Eden. There was no death in the Garden of Eden until Adam and Eve sinned and ate the forbidden fruit. After that, God made tunics for Adam and Eve which would have been the first death on Earth.
So why is the human body designed to eat meat? We need protein in order to create muscles. What protein do you get from salad? Leviticus 11 outlines the law given to the Jews regarding clean and unclean animals, fish, birds that can be eaten.
However, Peter was shown in a dream, a basket of food dropped down to him that had unclean food in it. He was given advise not to offend his host by refusing to eat the food presented by the host or hostess I remember visiting my daughter in laws parents in Japan.
They did not speak English my daughter in laws mother, aunt and cousin spent the entire day cooking for 29 people so they coud meet me. I had no idea what I was eating, but to have refused would have brought such shame to my son and daughter in law. I kept remembering the dream that Peter had had, and knew it was the right decision to eat what my daughter in laws family had prepared as a special meal for me.
To have done otherwise would have been unChristian. There are various tweeks and interpretations of all Christian churches. But the fundamentals are the same. Their view of the trinity differs from basics Christianity, they have no idea about the new covenant therefore they idolise the Ten Commandments especially the sabbath as a day not as Jesus being our rest.
They deny the completed work of the cross and teach that Satan bears our sins at the end of time so being our eventual saviour.
Although they pay lip service to being saved by faith in Jesus Christ they actually teach perfectionism and deny Holy Spirit by believing the sabbath is the seal of God. I was an SDA but was saved out of their organisation. Despite their ant-Christ doctrines, individually they can be saved as was my mum and dad. And when Jesus performed the miracle of the fish for his deciples who had been fishing all night without result, and he told them to cast their nets again, were they vegetarian fish?
And the miracle of the 5 loves and 2 fish that were broken up and fed a crowd of 5, with 12 baskets remaining, were the fish vegetarian. What would Jesus do?
And he performed the miracle of the fish, and I do not believe they were vegetarian fish. But, it is not a requirement. We are permitted to eat clean meat. In the Old Testament, The Book of Leviticus 11 through 18, I think, tells us about the clean and unclean meats we can eat. So then you admit to trying to obey The LAW…? Then Moses will be your judge. Jesus fulfilled The Law and is not an archangel.
But the Law is the contractual agreement between God and his people. But to fulfill the torah the law. Since then as God warned Moses he would send people to test them, warning: if anyone comes and tries adding or taking away anything I have given you, you are not to accept them.
And God warned Moses that he would destroy all those who followed the false prophets. But, yet he still road the Donkey cult on the high sabbath as to not break the sabbath law. When you read about Jesus, He did everything on the Sabbath.
This is one of the reasons the Pharisees and Sadducees sought to kill Him. My mother told me years ago everyone went to church on Saturday. If you look at a calendar, Sunday is not the seventh day of the week, Saturday is.
I would suggest that the majority of the chrisian church celebrate a Sunday because that is the day He rose from the dead, thus proving His Lordship. There is lots of research on this subject. It even used to be printed in the Catholic doctrins. If you read a Catholic Bible, you will observe that they have altered the 4th Commandment. The Catholic church is why there are Protestants.
Catholics were wrong in their beginning and forever. Their is true facts when it was changed and whom. We all know it was under the roman empire all such changes took place.
Now even though Christianity is ones who claim to lift up the name of Christ and God does not mean they live according to and we can see such in the history books and the bible all the time even when the children was led into the wilderness. So the hinduisiam can be call Christians to. The only difference with SDA is they attempt to keep all the commandments as was told to Joshua to teach so the other can continue teaching generation to generation.
So the sabbath keeping is included and all going to man for guidance and forgiveness is abolish because God stopped all animal sacrificing because of the blood of attornment Christ that is plain to see and understand. Sister white never ask to be looked upon as anyone but a sister or messenger to the bro and sis so if many esteem her of such it s there own doing and false teaching she her self speak against it.
Just like after Creation, God rested. Sunday is to get pagans; sun worshippers involved; they worshipped the sun.
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